They’ve had 4 stripes and don’t care about that at U until it works for them. Everyone I fly with says they want to live in base and be senior. Granted, demographics change and we will start getting folks that didn’t live regional purgatory. My very unscientific analysis flying with everyone from first post IOE trip to being here 6 years or so says no to your position. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out, though. I still say as the current hiring tsunami continues to hit their respective 1 year marks, there will be an increasing number willing to bear the pains of juniority for CA pay. ' As you read earlier in this message, 2250 pilots will be receiving WARN notices via CCS later today that specify potential furlough start dates, which includes October 1 (1750 pilots), October 30 (250 pilots) and Novem(250 pilots)ĪLWAYS kinda cool to look at these old threads~ There's an interesting thread on here about the Furloughs Odds are they bounce for WB FO once the seat lock is up.Just making sure I didn't go crazy (LOL) Really hope they’re local because that gamble is not going to work out for some. Whoever takes those last filled seats to say SFO for example, but then is too junior to lateral elsewhere, man they are going to be in the house of pain for years and years. Speculation about withholding Capt seats until new base(s) announced is spot on. Give me a SEA too for the “4 corners” approach it's pretty smart as they can just adjust the G Line in EWR and all of a sudden, they still have pilots sitting reserve on the narrowbodies and the mid seniority pilots who are sitting FO all of a sudden take a Left Seat at a new base, or finally move over into the Left seat in EWR. PS) I'm betting MCO, BOS and LAS as the new BES's and they will have NO Problem filling those~ And not all at once either.Īctually. and when they make the announcement of the new BES's. Guess we will hear a little more of it in the Earnings Report. Yet no slots for those unfilled positions on this latest Vacancy Bid.ġ) They are "pocketing them" for an upcoming Base/Equipment/Seat announce BidĢ) They are "concerned" that the 73Max 10 debacle will cause lower new aircraft arrival next year. They can fill the right seat all day long with new hires! The goal of the company is to mitigate empty left seat bids. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out, though.Actually. At the end of the day, you still need people willing to sit reserve in EWR so how well it addresses the problem remains to be seen. So you draw down the EWR flying, but lose a lot of hub staffing in the process. Trick is, if they open a FL base, for example, a lot of those CAs are going to be senior guys coming from EWR. Odds are they bounce for WB FO once the seat lock is up. I know this because I was about 200 from the cut line. It was about 2850 that got notices, around mid 2015 hires. Glad it may have worked out for you but never forget, it didn't work out for some others.
I do agree, take a bid where you feel comfortable to sit in if (when) the music stops. Just like there is a price being junior on the BES of your choice when times are better. Sucks for them but there is a price to being junior. I (like many others out there) have a few skills beside piloting.Įnd of the Day, I believe it was roughly 2250ish pilots who got the WARN notice. There will ALWAYS be flying jobs out there. I NEVER expected the company to pull the trigger because of the mayhem it would have caused them. I get 4 and 1/2 months pay (pays me to middle of May 21) Per the UPA, I need 90 day Notice (takes us up to ) It was mentioned at the time that if this LOA failed, the company could have furloughed up to 5000. And it is sometimes sad what people post and others may think as facts.Īs someone who would have been in that 4700 pilot category, I had a phone call from my CP concerning my "negative" views on the LOA.
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